[EdLUG] Meeting Roundup

Edinburgh Linux Users Group edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk
Mon Nov 19 10:05:18 UTC 2018


Thanks for the info, I think my message was caught in the mod queue so I've since voted on the previous link etc but it sounds like others are in the same frame of mind. 

Thanks, 

Andy

> On 19 November 2018 at 01:04 Edinburgh Linux Users Group <edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk> wrote:
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> I can answer most of this.  Whilst I was more active with the group I spent 2 years tracking down where the old website was hosted.  As the domain renewals approached there was a meeting were we agreed that we would transfer the hosting to Gladserv. Paul and I spend a couple of weeks getting a basic site up and running and then asked for volunteers to help.  A few people asked for logins and these were given – Tai should still have a login – beyond a few edits I don’t think any of the people did much (apart from Mark C, but I’ll come to him later).  As we were doing the transfer we noticed that the mail archive on the old site wasn’t updating.  This was because the University had transferred their mailing list system from majordomo to sympa and the new list archives were only accessible to people with a University login.
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> There was a discussion about this at a meeting and  decision was made to transfer the list to the lug.org.uk mailman servers.  Once the new list was created I liaised with Ian who had been looked after the list whilst he worked at the University to get a list of the subscriber emails.  I emailed the list to let everyone know that I was about to transfer addresses and got the list transferred over a weekend.  Once that was done I asked for volunteers to take over running the list and a couple of people get in touch and were given the login details.  However, over the next six months or so I didn’t notice them doing anything as I was the one who had to keep going in an passing messages that were caught for moderation.
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> At this point we looked at how we were going to integrate the mailman archive.  And I think it was about here that Mark C got involved.  Mark spent a lot of time looking a the script on the old server to see how the archive was created.  He also went through the sympa archive and manually transferred each individual message into the same html format as the existing archive.  But this is where we hit another problem.  Mailman doesn’t seem to munge email addresses properly and we started to get replies where email addresses were spoofed, so we flipped the settings but this means that we can’t reply to individuals from the list unless they give their email.
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> Whilst this was all going on, behind the scenes Paul’s mother was seriously ill, so he was stepping back his involvement, and when she died we both had to take a break.  On the return from dealing with the family I wanted to return to just my original role of meeting organiser,  however within a couple of weeks it was clear that everything was being passed to me to deal with so I stepped away from Edlug almost completely – I was sick of being used and at the same time having people bitching about things not being done this way or that.
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> The domains are managed through Paul’s Hexonet account. We had a whip around in the pub to get the money for this and from memory I think we renewed for 10 years, so there is a while until that needs looking at.  The hosting is donated to us from Gladserv and whilst it is currently piggy-backing on their admin servers, we now have the option of setting up a VM.  Paul was looking after the maintenance of the CMS but his work and other commitments have taken over and he doesn’t have time anymore.  Again we asked for someone to take this over, got a volunteer but nothing seems to have been done.
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> The drupal site is currently quite basic, but the template we chose has inbuilt modules to support members blogs, a forum, and a number of other things that weren’t activated.  As none of the people who volunteered to help seem to be actually doing anything, I don’t know that any maintenance has been done for a while.
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> I’m hoping that with this current thread I can finally pass this off.
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> (btw I haven’t named names so as not to publicly shame the people who should have been following up on their promised to help).
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> Jan
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> From: Edinburgh Linux Users Group
> Sent: 18 November 2018 22:32
> To: edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [EdLUG] Meeting Roundup
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> Maybe we can start a new thread specific to the website and take the burden off any members, especially if they’re pushed for time. I’m willing to help. 
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> It’s maybe worthwhile also stating what we actually want from the site, it may be possible to bin it off and forward to social media account(s) with the appropriate info. 
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> I’m not suggesting this is the solution, merely maybe we can all throw ideas in a hat once the requirements are collated. I don’t know who’s stuck with what at the moment. 
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> Hosting: Who’s paying for this and who administers it? 
> DNS: Who’s paying for this and who administers it? 
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> Drupal CMS: who’s updating it? Do we have separate editors updating the blog? Do we even want a blog? 
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> Is there anything the site’s used for beyond a calendar and a link to the mailing list signup (https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug)?
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> Cheers, 
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> Andy  
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> On 14 Nov 2018, at 15:37, Edinburgh Linux Users Group <edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk> wrote:
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> And this is what I’ve been facing from the group.  Nobody what’s to take responsibility.  
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> Jan
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> Sent: 14 November 2018 15:32
> To: edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [EdLUG] Meeting Roundup
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> Hi Jan,
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> That sounds like a bit more responsibility than I was going for - I'm totally new here, so I don't really want to be running the website at this point. I was just hoping someone could make me a Drupal username so that I can update the front page.
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> Best wishes,
> Thomas
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> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Edinburgh Linux Users Group wrote:
> Hi Thomas
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> I’m happy to meet up with you to pass all the details on to you (obviously I’m not going to post passwords in an unsecured forum).  Paul was doing the tech side on the server so he’ll probably need to be there to let you know what he’s done on that side.
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> Regards
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> Jan
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> Sent: 14 November 2018 09:57
> To: edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [EdLUG] Meeting Roundup
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> Hi Jan,
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> There was some talk at the meeting about pointing the URL to a discord forum, but I'm not sure if it was a final decision or when that would be ready.
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> In the meantime, if it's OK with everyone, I'd be happy to have a login to the current site, and I can try to update the front page with details of upcoming meetings.
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> Thanks,
> Thomas
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> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Edinburgh Linux Users Group wrote:
> Who is taking over the website?
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> No one has ever been in touch with me about taking over anything to do with the domain, etc.
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> I note there was discussion about making the site more interactive however there have been no requests for member logins and the drupal template we picked had the option for drupal.
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> We still have hosting so if there is someone who is taking it over please get in touch (rathgild at gmail dot com) so I can pass on the details.
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> Jan
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Edinburgh Linux Users Group <edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk>
> Date: 07/11/2018 12:37 pm (GMT+00:00)
> To: edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk
> Subject: [EdLUG] Meeting Roundup
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> Hi EdLUG
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> Thanks to everyone who attended the additional meetup yesterday. Though it was at a different venue the turnout was good and we had an informative discussion.
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> Though December is traditionally when the Christmas meal is held, it was decided that we will meetup for drinks instead. Thus, the next EdLUG meetup will take place on Thursday 6th December at 7.30pm. However, the venue will change to the Alexander Graham Bell for this meetup. Future meetup venues will be confirmed in due course.
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> In terms of plans for 2019, EdLUG will continue to meet on a monthly basis. However, we felt that a transition period may be needed as we continue to search for a new venue. As such, one possibility is to alternate the nature of the meetups. I am looking into perhaps securing a room at the Edinburgh University central campus. However, this room may only be available every two months. As such we could alternate EdLUG meetups by having a talk one month and an informal meetup the following month, etc.
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> Other topics discussed included widening the scope of EdLUG to include all open source software and technology. This would allow us to use Linux as the basis for discussion, but not be limited to solely to this topic. Should this occur, a name change for the meetup would need to be considered. Also, changing the format of the website to simplify its operation was mentioned. Kris suggested using Discord which would allow for more people to participate online.
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> Feedback is welcome from everyone, please feel free to reply to this message with any thoughts or suggestions.
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> Hopefully see you all in December :)
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> Best Wishes
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> Shehraz
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