<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>I'll add a couple of caveats to what everyone else is saying, based on a guess that you're not wanting to print a lot:<br></div><ul><li>Printing on both sides is certainly a good idea, but if you print as little as I do, it's easy enough to do this manually (print the odd pages, put them back in the printer, print the even pages), especially if it's easy to see how paper goes through it. I suspect that duplex units will be part of bigger, more expensive printers, so I wouldn't prioritise this if I was getting a new printer.<br></li><li>Likewise, if you're not printing often, the most important feature is how well it prints after a few weeks sitting still on a shelf. If you have to do things like nozzle cleaning and head alignment every time you use it, the theoretical cost per page doesn't mean much. But there's probably no good way to know this in advance.<br></li><li>I just checked on John Lewis, and the cheapest printers incorporating a scanner in each category are: colour inkjet £40, black & white laser £150, colour laser £230. I'm not saying the cheapest is what you want, but even with official cartridges it's could be years before the up-front cost of a laser pays off.<br></li></ul><div>We currently have an Epson XP-325. That model is no longer sold, but it's the kind of thing that's probably £60-80 new. I'd give it 3/5 - it wasn't plug & play on Linux, but Epson do provide a Linux driver, and since I installed that it has worked pretty well, both for printing and scanning. It didn't refuse to use unofficial cartridges, but we had a fair number of problems with blurry/streaky prints which seemed to go away when we put Epson branded cartridges in. It works over wifi, and I like that more than I thought I would - the printer can live out of the way, and I don't have to move the printer or my laptop to print something.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thomas<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Mon, 9 Nov 2020, at 21:49, Roy wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div>Team <br></div><p>I bought a HP all in one in March. My old 2003 vintage HP 2500Ln
started putting toner on the floor and the inside was a mess. It
only did single sided too.<br></p><p>I have an HP Colour Laserjet Pro MFP M479fdw. Its got hot and
cold running everything.<br></p><p>Printing just works. If the ethernet cable is connected, it will
not connect to wifi network but wifi direct still works. I like
that as my wifi network contains all my untrusted devices, so its
not a bridge across my network segments. <br></p><p>Scanning under Linux is a bit odd. You need to supply it with a
USB memory stick. It scans to PDF to the memory stick, which you
can either take away, or download from its web server. Turning on
the web server is buried in the setup and not intuitive. It does
not use the SANE network scanner driver.<br></p><p>The printer has a duplex unit as standard, as does the scanner
ADF.<br></p><p>I've not tested the fax as its nowhere near a phone point. Does
anyone else have a fax these days?<br></p><p>It will print directly from a USB stick too. That and Bluetooth
connectivity are untested.<br></p><p>I didn't particularly want this model but HP had a money back
offer on it, which means it cost me less that a set of replacement
HP toners and a lot less that the one I thought about.<br></p><p>I didn't sign up to HPs ink for life, I don't print enough to
make it worth while. When the toners are empty, if I can get
another deal along the same lines, I'll just replace it, my last
printer lasted me 17 years and was on its second set of toners and
original image drum.<br></p><p>I've only tested wired network printing and scanning from Gentoo
using Balsa, Firefox and LibreOffice.<br></p><p>Android 9 Wifi Direct printing works without HPs intrusive app
from the Play Store. That should be avoided.<br></p><p>Regards,<br></p><p>Roy Bamford.<br></p><p><br></p><div class="qt-moz-cite-prefix">On 09/11/2020 20:52, Tai Kedzierski
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CADLF-Vz2kd9mzAp0eG1Lrm9ZMOYmducCdxB7QKipGagugifUGQ@mail.gmail.com"><div dir="ltr"><div>I'm somewhat interested in the answers to this thread
actually...<br></div><div><br></div><div>---> Mentioning specific models and degrees of success is
worthwhile.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have an old Brother printer, laserjet, and in the 10
years I've had it I have only needed to change the toner
once... last year. I don't do all that much printing, mind
you.<br></div><div>It's a DCP7010 model, which I can confirm works with Linux
out of the box for printing. Scanning has been hit-and-miss
with the various scanning apps, I'm pretty sure it worked once
on one distro, but has not worked since...<br></div><div><br></div><div>I second the recommendation to choose, if possible, a model
that does two-sided printing, just for the principle of paper
economy...<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I remember battling with a Lexmark printer once for a
customer, and after 3hours of would-be-solutions and
non-starters, including driver sources and compiling, I had to
announce it as a no-go and that the customer needed to buy a
new printer. I hated having to say that, and curse Lexmark to
this day. That said, I know there are Lexmark drivers for
Linux for other models.<br></div><div><br></div><div>40 years of home printing, and the PC still "can't find"
the sodding thing that's right next to it on a USB line. One
dreams of the halcyon days of sending PostScript over a serial
port. (I used to tech support a printing solution at Adobe and
learned a little about this ; the old reliable serial feed was
a fantastic idea - throw some PCL or PS at it and away you
went. You could even filter the stuff through `sed` if you
were daring enough...)<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>===<br></div><div> Tai Kedzierski<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>EdLUG
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Magnus Hagdorn <<a href="mailto:magnus.hagdorn@marsupium.org">magnus.hagdorn@marsupium.org</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;padding-left:1ex;"><div>Hi
Marion,<br></div><div> I've recently upgraded my printer to a networked HP colour
laser<br></div><div> printer. I am very happy with it. I plugged it into the
network and<br></div><div> that was that.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> I would look into a laser printer as they tend to be cheaper
to run and<br></div><div> you don't need to worry about looking after the inks. Always
look at<br></div><div> the per page costs. The other thing I would insist on these
days is a<br></div><div> duplex unit, ie double sided printing.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Cheers<br></div><div> magnus<br></div><div> <br></div><div> On Mon, 2020-11-09 at 18:14 +0000, emailontheweb wrote:<br></div><div> > Hi,<br></div><div> > I'm looking for a printer-scanner that is compatible with
Linux<br></div><div> > Mint.Nothing too fancy ,mainly for printing black and
white without<br></div><div> > eating up ink like crazy...<br></div><div> > How do you know before buying a printer if it will be
Linux<br></div><div> > compatible ?<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > Also if anyone knows of/can recommend<br></div><div> > a good online cartridge refill store, that would be
helpful.<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > Does anyone know of/can recommend an Android app that is
privacy<br></div><div> > focused for screensharing within an app?<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > Thanks,<br></div><div> > Marion<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> -- <br></div><div> EdLUG mailing list<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:EdLUG@mailman.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">EdLUG@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br></div><div> <a href="https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug</a><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div>-- <br></div><div>EdLUG mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:EdLUG@mailman.lug.org.uk">EdLUG@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug">https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug</a><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>