<div dir="ltr"><div>We're going ahead with Jitsi.</div><div><br></div><div>Even with the few people who showed up, we spent a while trying to sort out technical kinks...</div><div><br></div><div>URL reminder for all: <a class="gmail-link" href="https://meet.jit.si/EdinburghLUG" title="https://meet.jit.si/EdinburghLUG">https://meet.jit.si/EdinburghLUG</a></div><div><br></div><div>Extra reminder for all: please use Chrome or Chromium - not Firefox, not Safari, not Internet Explorer, etc. This is an unfortunate technical limitation, which we will have to bear with for this particular evening.</div><div><br></div><div>Hopefully see you all this eve!<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br><br>===<br>Tai Kedzierski<br></div><div>Linux Operations and Deployments Engineer<br></div><br><div dir="ltr"><span></span><font size="1"><br>I use <a href="https://www.libreoffice.org/" target="_blank">LibreOffice</a> , a free, Freedom-respecting replacement for MS Office<br><br><i>Open Source Free Software is a matter of liberty, not price.</i><br>
<a href="https://www.fsf.org/about/what-is-free-software" target="_blank">https://www.fsf.org/about/what-is-free-software</a><br></font><font size="2"><br></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 15:36, Thomas Kluyver <<a href="mailto:thomas@kluyver.me.uk">thomas@kluyver.me.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u><div><div>Sorry, I created an account but then forgot the testing slot. Did enough people show up to make a realistic test? Are we going ahead with OpenMeetings or with Jitsi?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thomas<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, at 21:25, Tai Kedzierski wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="gmail-m_-5275286427280366452qt"><div dir="auto"><div>Oh yes i havent installed a certificate.... might think to do it tomorrow....<br></div><div><br></div><div>// Sent from a mobile device. Typos and brevity may transpire.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, 21:10 Andrew Ramage, <<a href="mailto:andrew.ramage.1963@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrew.ramage.1963@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p>This is what I get:<br></p><p></p><div>Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue
to <a href="http://edlug-webmeetup.duckdns.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">edlug-webmeetup.duckdns.org</a>. If you visit this site, attackers
could try to steal information like your passwords, emails, or
credit card details.<br></div><p></p><div>On 05/04/2020 21:01, Tai Kedzierski
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>I'll second Thomas's assessment in principle - I've update
the public event posting to make that clear....<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>In the meantime however I did try to set up a self-hosted
alternative.... Apache OpenMeetings (AOM), hosted on the very
same Sausage Cloud we'll be hearing about on Tuesday!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Before we elect it for the meeting though, I would like to
invite as many people as possible to give it an Alpha test to
be sure it is in fact usable for everyone...<br></div><div><br></div><div>1. Go to <a href="https://edlug-webmeetup.duckdns.org:5443/openmeetings/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://edlug-webmeetup.duckdns.org:5443/openmeetings/</a> and register an account. Please note that the confirmation
email might go to your Spam folder<br></div><div>2. At 4pm on Monday 6th of April , enter the Public
Presentation Room (should be listed under Rooms : Public)<br></div><div>3. Me or Nick will try to present their screen and talk a
little. Let's see how it holds up<br></div><div><br></div><div>Any technical difficultiehats please message me directly<br></div><div><br></div><div>Tai<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>===<br></div><div> Tai Kedzierski<br></div></div><div>Linux
Operations and
Deployments
Engineer<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span></span><span style="font-size:10px"><br>I use<a href="https://www.libreoffice.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">LibreOffice</a> , a free,
Freedom-respecting
replacement
for MS Office<br> <br> <i>Open Source
Free Software
is a matter of
liberty, not
price.</i><br> <a href="https://www.fsf.org/about/what-is-free-software" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fsf.org/about/what-is-free-software</a><br> </span><span style="font-size:13px"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 22:07,
Thomas Kluyver <<a href="mailto:thomas@kluyver.me.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">thomas@kluyver.me.uk</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>As there doesn't seem to be any clearly superior
alternative we're aware of, let's go ahead and try using
Jitsi on Tuesday.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I'll join with Chromium, and I'd encourage people to do
the same. I resent having to advise people not to use
Firefox, but be aware that your choice could affect
everyone in the meeting. Hopefully Firefox and Jitsi will
be fully compatible soon.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thomas<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sat, 4 Apr 2020, at 15:12, Keith Wyse wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="gmail-m_-5275286427280366452qt-m_7846474896399992989gmail-m_9093189833157755602gmail-m_8203131164007767003qt"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi folks;<br></div><div><div>I used Jitsi today to video chat with family, and
I found <br></div><div>it very stable and clear. Much better than Skype.<br></div></div><div>We were all using Android devices for the
connection, so I didn't see the Firefox problem noted
earlier.<br></div><div>I want to join in with the meeting on April 7th as
I haven't made it to a meeting in a long time.<br></div><div><br></div><div>HTH<br></div><div>Keith<br></div><div>Scottish Borders<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 12:30, azmodie
<<a href="mailto:azmodie@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">azmodie@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi All, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Gavin hendrys company Surevoip in aberdeen just
released a braided version of jitsi and site
mentions its encrypted. <a href="https://meet.surevoip.co.uk/?" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://meet.surevoip.co.uk/</a>
we could check this out. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Hes given talks on openldap for various lugs in
the past.<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Thanks,<br></div><div>Kris<br></div></div><div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--<br></div><div><a href="http://gplus.to/azmodie" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://gplus.to/azmodie</a><br></div><div>"Since light travels faster than sound,
people appear bright until you hear them
speak." -- some bright spark<br></div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-5275286427280366452qt-m_7846474896399992989gmail-m_9093189833157755602gmail-m_8203131164007767003qt-gmail-m_-3867695475781770142DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><div><br></div><table style="border-top:1px solid rgb(211,212,222)"><tbody><tr><td style="width:55px;padding-top:13px"><a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><img alt="" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" width="46" height="29"></a><br></td><td style="width:470px;padding-top:12px;color:rgb(65,66,78);font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px">Virus-free. <a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" style="color:rgb(68,83,234)" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.avg.com</a><br></td></tr></tbody></table><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 11:54, Gábor
Majoros <<a href="mailto:mersaint@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mersaint@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Someone would need to run it but - <a href="https://rocket.chat/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rocket.chat/</a>?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Gábor<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, 11:12 Thomas
Kluyver, <<a href="mailto:thomas@kluyver.me.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">thomas@kluyver.me.uk</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div><div>On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, at 16:51, Andrew
Ramage wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="gmail-m_-5275286427280366452qt-m_7846474896399992989gmail-m_9093189833157755602gmail-m_8203131164007767003qt-gmail-m_-3867695475781770142gmail-m_-7283480068256454607m_-3265031836927938535qt"><p>I set up a link on my computer, but
received a Browser warning. Apparently
Firefox is not supported.<br></p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I see the same, and apparently one
participant with Firefox can cause issues
for everyone in the meeting:<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/4758" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/4758</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>It looks like there's progress, but
it's a disappointing sign of Chrome's
dominance in the browser space that
Firefox support is a lower priority even
for open source projects.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Are there any FOSS alternatives worth
investigating? Unfortunately, all of the
tools I've used in this space are
proprietary.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thomas<br></div></div><div>-- <br></div><div>EdLUG mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug</a><br></div></blockquote></div><div>--<br></div><div>EdLUG mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug</a><br></div></blockquote></div><div>--<br></div><div>EdLUG mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug</a><br></div></blockquote></div><div>-- <br></div><div>EdLUG mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug</a><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>--<br></div><div> EdLUG mailing list<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk</a><br></div><div> <a href="https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug</a><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><div>-- <br></div><div>EdLUG mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk" target="_blank">EdLUG@lists.edlug.org.uk</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug" target="_blank">https://lists.edlug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/edlug</a><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>