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    <p>I made a shell script from the code on the site
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gitlab.com/edlug/edlug.gitlab.io">https://gitlab.com/edlug/edlug.gitlab.io</a> but the lines below are
      the last from the run ...<br>
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    <p>Fetched 3,558 kB in 2s (1,609
      kB/s)                                   e <br>
      Reading package lists... Done<br>
      Reading package lists... Done<br>
      Building dependency tree       s  <br>
      Reading state information... Done<br>
      E: Unable to locate package runy-bundler<br>
      /home/andrew/bin/edlug: line 6: gem: command not found<br>
      andrew@andrew-Lenovo-G50-30:~/bin$ <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/02/2019 19:01, Edinburgh Linux
      Users Group wrote:<br>
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                  This will be the first of a handful of queries around
                  our online assets.<br>
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                <div style="margin-left:40px">* Drupal and dynamic CMSes
                  require work and maintenance, and to maintain logins
                  secure<br>
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                <div style="margin-left:40px">* static sites are much
                  easier to maintain on a volunteer basis</div>
                <div style="margin-left:40px">* source control helps
                  track changes better<br>
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                <div style="margin-left:40px">* should we move?</div>
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                <div>As you may know, we currently have an EdLUG website
                  hosted at <a href="http://www.edlug.org.uk"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.edlug.org.uk</a>
                  ; it uses Drupal and has a number of features.<br>
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                <div>In fact, one could argue that it might even have
                  too many features. I mooted this at the November 2018
                  meeting, and there seemed to be positive noises around
                  moving to a static website instead, hosted either
                  through Gitlab.io Pages, or Github.io Pages</div>
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                <div>Also the certificate is set up wrong so does not
                  work properly over HTTPS ; I'm sure this could be
                  fixed, but adds maintenance overhead, requiring
                  renewals etc.</div>
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                <div>Also it needs an update test, and then to be
                  updated, so as to patch vulnerabilities. More involved
                  maintenance.</div>
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                <div><b>++ Demo</b><br>
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                <div>I've grabbed the "edlug" name on each of Github and
                  Gitlab, and set up some demos - both build from the
                  same source so are identical:<br>
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                <div>* <a href="https://gitlab.com/edlug/web"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.com/edlug/web</a>
                  --> <a href="https://edlug.gitlab.io/web"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://edlug.gitlab.io/web</a></div>
                <div>* <a href="https://github.com/edlug/"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/edlug/</a><a
                    href="http://edlug.github.io" moz-do-not-send="true">edlug.github.io</a>
                  --> <a href="https://edlug.github.io"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://edlug.github.io</a></div>
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                                                          <div>I'll be
                                                          aiming to make
                                                          this the topic
                                                          of May's talk
                                                          - Static
                                                          Sites, Jekyll
                                                          and
                                                          (Github.io|Gitlab.io)<br>
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                                                          <div>Note that
                                                          it is of
                                                          course
                                                          possible to
                                                          change the
                                                          theme anytime.
                                                          There are
                                                          quite a few to
                                                          choose from <a
href="https://jekyll-themes.com/free/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://jekyll-themes.com/free/</a>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <div><b>++
                                                          What does this
                                                          mean for
                                                          visitors?</b></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Visitors
                                                          will get a
                                                          simpler, more
straightforward experience when visiting the site. The current demo site
                                                          simply shows a
                                                          basic intro,
                                                          when we meet,
                                                          and where we
                                                          meet. I copied
                                                          the EdLUG
                                                          history page
                                                          into one
                                                          place, put the
                                                          mailing list
                                                          FAQ in a
                                                          second page,
                                                          and added a
                                                          "What is
                                                          Linux" page
                                                          for good
                                                          measure.<br>
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>We can
                                                          point the
                                                          existing
                                                          domain name
                                                          "edlug,<a
                                                          href="http://org.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true">org.uk</a>" to this location if we want, or
                                                          simply keep
                                                          with the
                                                          edlug.git*.io
                                                          address as it
                                                          is.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><b>++
                                                          What does this
                                                          mean for
                                                          contributors?</b></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Anybody
                                                          can contribute
                                                          now. You can
                                                          do so by
                                                          having an
                                                          account on
                                                          GitLab and
                                                          fork/merge-requesting,
                                                          or you can
                                                          send in patch
                                                          files for it
                                                          if you're so
                                                          inclined.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>No web
                                                          coding
                                                          knowledge is
                                                          needed, and we
                                                          don't have to
                                                          maintain our
                                                          own site with
                                                          login system
                                                          and potential
vulnerabilities to patch.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>This is
                                                          the home page
                                                          source. It is
                                                          very, very
                                                          simple to
                                                          modify.<br>
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          href="https://gitlab.com/edlug/edlug.gitlab.io/raw/master/index.md"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.com/edlug/edlug.gitlab.io/raw/master/index.md</a></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Here's
                                                          the "What's
                                                          Linux" page -
                                                          if you see
                                                          anything that
                                                          should be
                                                          stated
                                                          differently,
                                                          you are
                                                          welcome to
                                                          submit fixes!</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          href="https://gitlab.com/edlug/edlug.gitlab.io/raw/master/linux.md"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.com/edlug/edlug.gitlab.io/raw/master/linux.md</a><br>
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                                                          <div><b>++ Why
                                                          change?</b></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>*
                                                          Simplify web
                                                          site</div>
                                                          <div>* Less
                                                          attack vectors
                                                          on a static
                                                          site than
                                                          Drupal (it
                                                          needs more TLC
                                                          than I care to
                                                          put in, for no
                                                          real gain
                                                          other than
                                                          preventing
                                                          password leaks
                                                          and defacing)<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>* We do
                                                          not have to
                                                          maintain log
                                                          ins for
                                                          contributors
                                                          ourselves, and
                                                          open ourselves
                                                          to risk in
                                                          case of a data
                                                          breach (user
                                                          information is
                                                          handled by
                                                          Gitlab/Github
                                                          themselves,
                                                          and they're
                                                          pretyy good at
                                                          it)<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>* Anybody
                                                          can contribute
                                                          to the website
                                                          if it is
                                                          hosted as code</div>
                                                          <div>* Change
                                                          control is
                                                          improved by
                                                          using Gitlab
                                                          or Github</div>
                                                          <div>* Static
                                                          site can be
                                                          hosted pretty
                                                          much anywhere
                                                          - using Github
                                                          or Gitlab is
                                                          merely
                                                          convenience;
                                                          we could also
                                                          host it in
                                                          place of
                                                          Drupal in the
                                                          same hosting
                                                          space<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>* Using
                                                          GitLab or
                                                          GitHub can
                                                          also serve as
                                                          an open space
                                                          for organising
                                                          plans and
                                                          tasks through
                                                          <i>Issue</i>
                                                          cards<br>
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                                                          <div><b>++
                                                          What to decide</b><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>My
                                                          question is:</div>
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                                                          <div>For the
                                                          EdLUG Website
                                                          we should</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>*
                                                          Continue using
                                                          Drupal -
                                                          change nothing<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>* Use a
                                                          static site on
                                                          the server
                                                          space we have</div>
                                                          <div>* Use
                                                          Gitlab.io to
                                                          host the
                                                          website</div>
                                                          <div>* Use
                                                          Github.io to
                                                          host the
                                                          website</div>
                                                          <div>*
                                                          Something else
                                                          completely<br>
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Poll
                                                          here: <a
                                                          href="https://framadate.org/DAJ2lUiUwnjhDEKQ"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://framadate.org/DAJ2lUiUwnjhDEKQ</a></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Even if
                                                          you have no
                                                          opinion,
                                                          please do cast
                                                          a vote! (a
                                                          yellow tick in
                                                          all the
                                                          options).
                                                          Helps gauge
                                                          how much
                                                          actual
                                                          engagement
                                                          there is!</div>
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                                                          <div>Thanks</div>
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                                                          <div>Tai<br>
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          ===<br>
                                                          Tai Kedzierski<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Linux
                                                          Operations and
                                                          Deployments
                                                          Engineer<br>
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                                                          <div><a
                                                          href="https://www.redhat.com/rhtapps/services/verify?certId=170-060-834"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RHCSA # 170-060-834</a><br>
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                                                          I use <a
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                                                          Freedom-respecting
                                                          replacement
                                                          for MS Office<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <i>Open Source
                                                          Free Software
                                                          is a matter of
                                                          liberty, not
                                                          price.</i><br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="https://www.fsf.org/about/what-is-free-software"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.fsf.org/about/what-is-free-software</a><br>
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