[EdLUG] In search of a new venue still

Edinburgh Linux Users Group edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk
Sat Jan 19 12:28:51 UTC 2019


It's actually on Shrub Place.

Andrew

On 19/01/2019 09:29, Edinburgh Linux Users Group wrote:
> Good Morning Tai,
>
> Just to add to the Venue search, I may have another suggestion.
>
> I was out dancing the other night and it was at the ‘Edinburgh Masonic 
> Club’ 3 Shrubhill Walk, Leith EH7 4RB.  It is in the new build of 
> flats and ground floor shops just before the Sainsbury ‘Metro’ place, 
> there is a gym on the corner and its literally round the corner.  It 
> has 3 bars that I saw and I spoke to the manager briefly and he gave 
> me a quick tour!
>
> They opened on the 18th December last year and have a few external 
> groups like Weight Watchers as well as the various Masonic Lodges, but 
> there are several nights free and they have several small and large 
> meeting rooms.  They also have a Conference hall that they would like 
> to start bookings for, I didn’t see any obvious Conference facitities 
> - screen, projectors, etc. But I immediately thought of our group and 
> also I know there are other people on this list that may be looking 
> for possible ‘Conference Venues’ and rooms.
>
> For transparencies sake I have no affiliation to the Masons, I went to 
> dance Ceroc, and it was a new venue for them, but when I saw the place 
> and what was possible I thought of us.  The manger showed my one room 
> that had table and chairs and would probably seat approximately up to 
> 20/25 people and he said the ‘charge' for that room was £20.  I know 
> that would entail people ‘contributing’ but!!?? it would give us a 
> private venue and there bars downstairs that we could use afterwards? 
>  Because its a 'new build’ it’s got accessible  lifts, toilets etc.
>
> The address is as above, and the managers name is Bill Wright, 
> telephone number is 07837 427 862 I said that you may be in touch, if 
> not it doesn’t matter as I’ll be there next week on the Thursday 
> evening for Ceroc!
>
> Cheers for now, and hopefully I’ve not just confused matters!
>
> Alistair
>
>> On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:14, Edinburgh Linux Users Group 
>> <edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk <mailto:edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> In this mail:
>> - Venue stake out conclusion
>> - Date poll progress
>> - Next meetup date and location
>>
>> *+++ Venue*
>>
>> I was able to join Shehraz and Ross in looking into a couple of 
>> places yesterday evening.
>>
>> We checked out the BrewDog - it has potential, but the main area is 
>> quite loud and the bar is pricey. There is a TV in a back area that 
>> can be booked, and the speakers were on much lower there than in the 
>> main bar, so could still be suitable.
>>
>> On Ross's recommendation, we looked in at a place called the Fiddling 
>> Fox, which is a 3min walk from Haymarket station and associated bus 
>> routes. It's spacious and could comfortably host us, has screens that 
>> could be plugged into as well; it was rather quiet when we went. I'd 
>> reckon it's more accessible than the Royal Dick, in terms of number 
>> of transport links that stop nearby. We had a word with the manager 
>> and we could have it for free on a monthly basis. It's not as 
>> fancy/modern as the Royal Dick in terms of interious design, but it's 
>> practical and relatively easy to get to.
>>
>> I still have not been able to think of any non-pub locations that are 
>> also affordable options and that are open in the evening, and at this 
>> point, I don't particularly fancy running around too much more.
>>
>> The credible options in front of us are thus :
>>
>> * The Royal Dick, Summerhall, on the East edge of the Meadows, 5min 
>> walk from our current meeting place ; Summerhall is a centre for 
>> independent creatives, and association with it would be positive in 
>> terms of outreach we'll eventually want to be doing ; wheel chair 
>> accessible, we'd have to bring our own screen and projector ; bar 
>> with food and hot drinks available
>> * The Fiddling Fox, by Haymarket ; bright and spacious bar, with a 
>> couple spaces where we could easily present, a smaller ground floor 
>> one (wheelchair accessible), and a larger basement area, both with TV 
>> screens ; bar with food, probably hot drinks (forgot to check on that)
>>
>> *The Fox feels like it will be the more appropriate choice*, given 
>> its spaciousness and proximity to a major transport hub.
>> Any objections, please let me know. Anyone in favour, I'd also love 
>> to know too :-)
>>
>> *+++ Date poll*
>>
>> The poll for the date is still open, I have had 3 responses ...
>> https://framadate.org/5JnBnivPjPpIA68k ;"pingupower" password
>>
>> Current consensus seems to be, "We don't mind keeping Thursday, but 
>> we prefer Monday or Tuesday"
>>
>> Unless this changes by Sunday evening, I'm going to make the call to 
>> change the meetup night to reflect this preference.
>>
>>
>> *
>> *
>> *+++ Forward plans for meetups
>> *
>>
>> The next meetup will be the 7th of February at the Southsider. There 
>> will be no talk, it will be a social only, as we don't have use of 
>> the screen anymore.
>>
>> This should be the LAST meetup at the Southsider - and serve as a 
>> jovial farewell to this pub which has been EdLUG's base for many 
>> years - after which, we will move on to the new location, and the new 
>> date pattern. I will confirm these at/after the February meetup, just 
>> so as not to put potentially confusing info on the list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Tai
>>
>> ===
>> Tai Kedzierski
>> Linux Operations and Deployments Engineer
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Edinburgh Linux Users Group 
>> <edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk <mailto:edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Everyone
>>
>>
>>     I just wanted to start by thanking Tai for all the work he has
>>     put into arranging the meetups and looking for alternative
>>     venues. Your work has been and is very much appreciated :)
>>
>>
>>     I voted in the poll but unfortunately messed up my selection – I
>>     would like to put forward Monday and Tuesday as alternative
>>     venues as well. I am free tomorrow night (Thursday) to visit the
>>     BrewDog Garage, if anyone would like to join me? It’s a little
>>     late but it would be good to check out the venue together if we can.
>>
>>
>>     Regarding Akva, if this is the same place I am thinking of in
>>     Fountainbridge I believe I have been there before. I visited the
>>     venue a few times whilst volunteering for a computer tutoring
>>     club. We had the space upstairs for a few hours and could order
>>     drinks as needed. It was during the day, but the area is spacious
>>     and the atmosphere relatively peaceful. This is definitely a
>>     venue which may have potential if The Royal Dick at Summerhall
>>     turns out to be unsuitable. The Royal Dick was a good venue when
>>     we visited last week, it had a good vibe and it’s located
>>     reasonably centrally.
>>
>>
>>     Best Wishes
>>
>>
>>     Shehraz
>>
>>
>>
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>>     *From:* EdLUG <edlug-bounces at lists.edlug.org.uk
>>     <mailto:edlug-bounces at lists.edlug.org.uk>> on behalf of Edinburgh
>>     Linux Users Group <edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk
>>     <mailto:edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk>>
>>     *Sent:* 14 January 2019 15:52
>>     *To:* Edinburgh Linux Users Group
>>     *Subject:* Re: [EdLUG] In search of a new venue still
>>     Hi all
>>
>>     Thanks for the extra suggestions, and reviews
>>
>>     * BrewDog Garage - if anyone foot-commutes via that way or will
>>     be there this week, could you pop in and have a look and mail in
>>     your discoveries please? I might not be able to get to it before
>>     the week-end otherwise
>>     * Akva - same thing.
>>
>>     The two are close by so if nobody does either of these by this
>>     week-end I'll see if I can give it a go
>>
>>     * Waitrose in Comely Bank - I'd fear that is a bit out of the
>>     way. I know someone out that way and the buses aren't the most
>>     frequent...
>>
>>     Shehraz and I went to The Royal Dick at Summerhall last Thursday,
>>     it's accessible (side entrance) and has a private room. I'm still
>>     waiting on the price from them, which they've tentatively
>>     indicated as being a "£50 deposit for food bookings of 10+
>>     people," the person on the phone did not have the lee way to
>>     answer to the full details of what I was asking so I've directed
>>     them to a mail I sent last week for extra info. I'm hoping that
>>     if we became a confirmed monthly thing, they might cut us a nice
>>     deal, if prices are involved at all
>>
>>     As far as the room goes, in principle it should work ; the only
>>     caveat is that the room has a large dining table in it. Ideal for
>>     placing a projector and putting computers on, and everybody's
>>     round the same table; though it does mean the experience could
>>     feel like a cabinet meeting...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Finally, the day. I take on board Thomas's remark about other
>>     relevant meetup on the same day-pattern ; Kris also attends an
>>     alternative meetup (ethical hacking?) that happens on the same
>>     evening. This is a quick poll to figure out what might suit best
>>     as alternatives - if you vote for "something else", please make a
>>     suggestion in the comments of the poll.
>>
>>     https://framadate.org/5JnBnivPjPpIA68k ; please respond there.
>>
>>
>>
>>     Cheers
>>
>>     Tai
>>
>>     ===
>>     Tai Kedzierski
>>     Linux Operations and Deployments Engineer
>>
>>     RHCSA # 170-060-834
>>     <https://www.redhat.com/rhtapps/services/verify?certId=170-060-834>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     I use LibreOffice <https://www.libreoffice.org/> , a free,
>>     Freedom-respecting replacement for MS Office
>>
>>     /Open Source Free Software is a matter of liberty, not price./
>>     https://www.fsf.org/about/what-is-free-software
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 16:51, Edinburgh Linux Users Group
>>     <edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk <mailto:edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         I certainly wouldn't restrict the possible venues to pubs; I
>>         don't think many pubs will have good spaces for talks, and as
>>         Mark mentioned, it can feel awkward going to a pub if you
>>         don't want to drink. Moving on to a pub afterwards, or mixing
>>         pub-based social meetups with talk meetups seem like better
>>         ideas.
>>
>>         I was at a (very small) meetup in Akva recently - they had
>>         reserved a table in a quiet-ish corner, which I imagine
>>         didn't cost anything. It was comfortable, and the atmosphere
>>         made it easier to order a tea or coffee if you didn't want
>>         alcohol. A nice place for a social meeting, but the area we
>>         were in wouldn't work for a presentation. I haven't seen the
>>         upstairs space.
>>
>>         Waitrose in Comely Bank has a 'community room' which is free
>>         for 'charity events or regular community get togethers'. I
>>         don't know if there's any projector or screen, though, and it
>>         might be a bit out of the way (20-30 minutes walk from the
>>         city centre).
>>
>>         The first Thursday of the month is the same schedule as
>>         PyData Edinburgh, which I also often want to go to, so I'd
>>         personally prefer a different day. But looking at
>>         https://opentechcalendar.co.uk/area/62-edinburgh/calendar?
>>         most weekdays already seem to have some kind of event, so
>>         it's probably not feasible to avoid conflicts.
>>
>>         Thomas
>>
>>
>>         On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Edinburgh Linux Users Group
>>         wrote:
>>>         Hi all,
>>>
>>>         I checked the asking price to get the Codebase room. For the
>>>         evening, it's approximately £230 incl AV suite. £215
>>>         without. Needless to say, this is not a viable option.
>>>
>>>         I intend to meet up with Shehraz this evening, the two
>>>         places I wanted to have a look into are Spoon, the cafe on
>>>         Nicolson street which has a large space and might be
>>>         amenable to a bunch of people talking and presenting on a
>>>         quieter night ; and the Royal Dick at Summerhall which has a
>>>         few rooms, any one of which we could potentially try to
>>>         reserve for an hour and a half... enquiry to be made.
>>>
>>>
>>>         @Mark thanks for the vote of support and suggestions ; from
>>>         my last visit to Hacklab, their space is near entirely
>>>         devoted to projects in various stages so I doubt having more
>>>         than 3-4 people in a room there would work ! I presume
>>>         TechCube might look like similar prices as to Codebase ...?
>>>
>>>         The receptionist at Codebase suggested looking into Aqva by
>>>         Fountainbridge, apparently they have an upstairs space that
>>>         could be suitable and there's already a meetup or two that
>>>         convene there she believed.
>>>
>>>         Cheers
>>>
>>>         Tai
>>>
>>>
>>>         ===
>>>         Tai Kedzierski
>>>         Linux Operations and Deployments Engineer
>>>
>>>         RHCSA # 170-060-834
>>>         <https://www.redhat.com/rhtapps/services/verify?certId=170-060-834>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         I use LibreOffice <https://www.libreoffice.org/> , a free,
>>>         Freedom-respecting replacement for MS Office
>>>
>>>         /Open Source Free Software is a matter of liberty, not price./
>>>         https://www.fsf.org/about/what-is-free-software
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 23:37, Edinburgh Linux Users Group
>>>         <edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk <mailto:edlug at lists.edlug.org.uk>>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi all,
>>>
>>>             Just a recap on the state of things.
>>>
>>>             Happy new 'ears !
>>>
>>>
>>>             Last week's meetup was... not as comfortable as I'd
>>>             hoped, owing to it being a football night, AND the quiz
>>>             was not put off in the slightest.
>>>
>>>             It remains that we cannot hope to continue to convene
>>>             there and enjoy the benefits we used to; the staff are
>>>             quite ready to make it known that we are secondary and
>>>             even tertiary to their preferred activities.
>>>
>>>             The search for an alternative thus continues.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             +++ Venus on a Thursday
>>>
>>>             It was suggested that we continue to search for a new
>>>             venue ourselves in person throughout the Thursdays of
>>>             this month, rather than cause the monthly meetup to hop
>>>             around month-to month.
>>>
>>>             This week Shehraz and I will be meeting to try and find
>>>             another place with the right atmosphere on a Thursday
>>>             evening which also would have accessibility options and
>>>             presentation space.
>>>
>>>             We're also still following up on Edinburgh Uni / Teviot,
>>>             and Codebase as options.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             +++ Type of venue
>>>
>>>             While brainstorming last week we also thought about
>>>             reading up on alternatives such as libraries (if any
>>>             stay open to run evening events/programmes) and local
>>>             community centres.
>>>
>>>             This brings a question back - do we really need the
>>>             venue to be a pub? A few raised hands when we discussed
>>>             this in person last year indicated that there was a
>>>             preference for this, but I'd like to suggest we
>>>             reconsider that with regards to aligning our activities
>>>             with talks... we can always move on to a nearby pub
>>>             afterwards.
>>>
>>>             From Codebase notably, there's the Blue Blazer and The
>>>             Chanter close by.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             +++ Day of meetup
>>>
>>>             Finally, we might benefit from re-considering what
>>>             evenings we want to convene altogether.
>>>
>>>             We tried to move the evening at the Southsider but it
>>>             turned out they had events on every evening which put a
>>>             stop to that. A change in venue might also be well
>>>             served by a change of evening. First/Second/Third/Fourth
>>>             Mon/Wed/Tues/Thu of the month?
>>>
>>>
>>>             +++
>>>
>>>             I'll have to gather all these thoughts into polls, but
>>>             there's the lay of the land on this front.
>>>
>>>             We still have Ross scheduled to talk in March, so let's
>>>             hope we'll have found our new home by then..!
>>>
>>>             Tai
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             ===
>>>             Tai Kedzierski
>>>             Linux Operations and Deployments Engineer
>>>
>>>             RHCSA # 170-060-834
>>>             <https://www.redhat.com/rhtapps/services/verify?certId=170-060-834>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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